
Rawlings says its all a result of some smart and calculated early choices: keeping the Gillian Welch project insular, and having the knowledge to control certain things, like holding on to masters and even buying the early ones back from Interscope, which housed their first label.
โIt all comes back to the amount of touring we did as two people in a car,โhe says. โWe were making about enough money to have another two people, but we didnโt. So we were able to buy recording equipment, the beginnings of a studio. Weโd come home and buy a couple pieces, slowly.โ
One choice Rawlings has made on Nashville Obsolete is to, once again, not make it a complete showboat for his guitar playing, something that scores of his admirers have been wanting for years โ because his style, which hovers between flatpicking and improvisational jazz, is a singular one. He plays a quirky, unusual instrument โ a 1935 Epiphone Olympic archtop acoustic, which looks almost like a giant, stretched out violin, which he holds with the neck up at nearly a 45-degree angle, pushed out from his body as if itโs a magnet he canโt shake. His plucks are thick and complicated, but also delightfully sparse at times, too.
โI feel a little bad,โ he says, โbecause I feel like there are people who are fans of my guitar playing, and I donโt want to let them down.โ
โIโm always delighted when Dave takes off on a solo because he brings us on this great ride thatโs compelling and yet full of surprises,โ says Sara Watkins, who recruited Rawlings and Welch to play on her self-titled solo debut. โAt a show, it can feel like the audience was watching a story unfold. Itโs exciting when you sense Dave has sort of played himself into a corner and you can feel the whole audience tensing up, routing for him. No one is sure how heโll get himself out of this fix heโd gotten himself into. But then he breaks out of that tight spot and you canโt help but cheer and celebrate.โ
Goldsmith echoes the sentiment. โThere are a lot of Dave Rawlings imitators out there. You have to be a real individual for that to happen.โ
The afternoon light has shifted, and Welch comes back out onto the porch. Rawlings strides back inside, but Welch is not smiling.
โIโm in a bit of a surly mood,โ she says. She had recently been asked to write the speech for Townes Van Zandtโs induction into the Austin City Limits hall of fame, which she worked on during the entire drive to Texas for the presentation. Just now, her management informed her that it had been cut to โlike 25 percentโ for the television broadcast. Welch is not used to having others control and edit her work โ and thankfully so. But she does point out that now, with The Machine, sheโll be the one taking a slightly less starring role in the game of public perception.
โPeople didnโt understand how much of a band Gillian Welch was, and [Rawlings] endured it with great stoicism,โ she says. โNow Iโm on the stoic end of that. Some are like, โOh, Dave wrote the songs.โ No, itโs the same thing. Only he is singing them. Now itโs my turn to be on the quiet end. Weโll see how well I endure it. I donโt know if Iโm as stoic as he is!โ She laughs, that surly mood seemingly relaxing away.
The first Dave Rawlings Machine album, Friend Of A Friend, came out in 2009, and it felt a little bit more like a sampler than an intentionally-composed LP. There are several covers, like of his friend and collaborator Conor Oberstโs โMethod Acting,โ as well as Ryan Adams and Old Crow Medicine Show tracks he co-wrote. But it doesnโt exactly tell a concrete story like Nashville Obsolete.
ย โThis record, in my mind, is a little more like Daveโs first record, truly,โ Welch agrees. โFriend Of A Friend is like an introductory composite. This is Daveโs first record,โ she repeats, clapping her hands, as if that makes the statement official.
โI feel like this record wants to be understood,โ she adds. โHopefully it is a record that will connect with people. Dave and I are both really liking this pendulum swing between the Machine, and the duet. And I really enjoyed knowing this is the first record weโve made knowing that Dave would be the singer. Even the first record โ I didnโt start โRubyโ knowing it was for Dave. It just got started. But โThe Weekendโ was always for Dave.โ
Welch describes that writing process as โdreamlike,โ akin to the subconscious flashes we conjure up while asleep.
โI donโt really control it,โ she says. โWe live our lives and we talk about stuff and, much like a dream โ that is controllable or uncontrollable โ I start a song about whatever has been in my head. There is no discussion really. Dave spontaneously starts โCandyโ one day at a sound check. And thatโs that.โ
Itโs an inevitable question to wonder if this all means a new Gillian Welch record is in the cards โ there has not been one since 2011’s The Harrow & The Harvest. Welch and Rawlings are still writing, of course, but sheโs just not sure yet where this particular material might end up heading.
โIf we have a fervor to write more Machine songs, weโll just write more Machine songs. I donโt really care what people expect. I donโt think people expected this record that we just served up. I think the last thing people expected from the guitar player in the Gillian Welch Band was a wordy poetic record of sprawling narrative. Someday theyโll get the guitar record theyโve been pining for a decade [for]. But this one does have more guitar.โ
โNow with thirty percent more guitar!โ says Rawlings, interjecting, as he suddenly appears on the porch.
โAnd we didnโt subject them to Dave playing the banjo,โ she fires back.
โWe waited until the banjo was popular and then we decided not to use it,โ Rawlings says. โThatโs very us. But I just came out here to say, I killed that cicada.โ
โYou did? Good man! Where was he?โ Apparently, a stray cicada had wandered into the Welch-Rawlings household, and has been chiming incessantly, loudly.
โHe was in the garbage disposal,โ Rawlings says. Welch gasps. โI correctly ascertained that he was subterranean. Anyway, heโs been disposed of.โ He grins proudly, devilishly. Fodder for another murder ballad, perhaps.
There was a point in the making of Nashville Obsolete where Rawlings started to doubt whether the public at large could relate to any of the sweeping time warp that he and Welch had created. So he called his friend Joel Coen, who directed O Brother with his own brother, Ethan, and asked for advice.
โI said, โWhat do you do when you have something you canโt throw away, but you donโt think it has much commercial value?โโ Rawlings recalls. โAnd one of the things I remember him saying is that, in their films, if there is a line that makes him and Ethan laugh, if there is something in it for them, it goes in. Even if no one else will understand.โ
Welchโs face lights up. โI was like, check! These songs totally qualify. I have no idea if anyone else is going to understand these or like them. But I know our interest was unflagging.โ
And, if all else fails, theyโll always understand each other.








