SongWriter Podcast: Roxane Gay + Celisse + Toshi Reagon

SongWriter is a podcast of stories and “answer songs” featuring Amanda Shires, Cheryl Strayed, Michael Ian Black, Joyce Carol Oates, Mary Gauthier, and George Saunders.

I canceled and reformatted a bunch of live shows last March, but the one that stung the most was an event with bestselling author and New York Times columnist Roxane Gay. This was to be the second show Roxane and I had done together, and I was co-producing it with a local arts organization, Harlem School of the Arts, which just completed a $10 million renovation of their performance spaces.

Like lots of artists and presenters we decided we would pivot to an online performance, though it wasn’t immediately clear to us how. Did we charge the same price as we would for an in-person performance, or should we just do it on Facebook Live and hope the audience tipped? Did everything have to be live, or could parts of the show be pre-recorded? Eventually we hashed out the details and came up with a plan that seemed ambitious…but possible.

I was thrilled when Toshi Reagon agreed to be one of the performers who would write a song in response to Roxane’s piece. A singer, a composer, a curator, and a producer, Toshi has worked in the fields of music and theater over a long and fascinating career that spans solo performances, collaborations with her band BIGLovely, and recently the opera she produced based on Octavia Butler’s novel Parable of the Sower. 

Not long after this Celisse came on board as well. I had been introduced to Celisse’s work when I saw her perform with Lizzo on Saturday Night Live. That night she played an iconic cream-colored Gibson SG custom electric guitar and a guitar strap emblazoned with the word “Sister” in honor of Sister Rosetta Tharp. The next day I read about her connection to the rock and roll pioneer, and I followed her extraordinary work from then on.

Though the inevitable technical snafus had me sweating through the first ten minutes, the show was breathtakingly beautiful. Roxane reads a piece about love in the pandemic, and the sweet, slow revelations of who she and her wife are without all the travel and distractions of the pre-pandemic world. Toshi performs a new song called “You Belong,” and Celisse sings a new ballad called “They Say.” 

None it had gone according to plan, but as in so much these days, I was grateful to be there.

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Isabella Rossellini + Sharon Van Etten SongWriter turns stories into songs

Filmmaker and actress Isabella Rossellini describes the night she went to see Temple Grandin speak at Hunter College, and ended up enrolling in graduate school to study animal behavior at the age of 60. Isabella’s friend and professor Dr. Diana Reiss speaks about her research work with animals, and the importance of seeing them not just as species, but as individuals. Rock star Sharon Van Etten explains why this project meant the world to her, and performs a new song titled "for Isabella."Chapters:09:30Isabella Rossellini describes how Darwin decoded animal intelligence using photography24:11Dr. Diana Reiss tells a story about a dolphin who turned her training methods back on her38:39Sharon Van Etten speaks about the catharsis of writing about intensity and darknessSongWriterPodcast.comInstagram.com/SongWriterPodcastFacebook.com/SongWriterPodcastTikTok.com/@SongWriterPodcastYouTube.com/@SongwriterPodcastSongWriter is a music and songwriting podcast that turns stories into songs. Host Ben Arthur invites writers, poets, and musicians to share a story or poem, then pairs it with an original song written in response. Along the way, the show explores the creative process through intimate conversations and performances. Guests have included Questlove, Susan Orlean, David Gilmour, Joyce Carol Oates, David Sedaris, and George Saunders. Distributed by PRX, SongWriter also appears on the syndicated radio program Acoustic Café and in Paste Magazine. Learn more at SongWriterPodcast.com. Season seven is made possible by a grant from Templeton World Charity Foundation
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