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We dive in with Hiss Golden Messenger to talk about songs like “Cracked Windshield,” “It Will If We Let It,” and “Heavy World” from his new album I’m People.

Along the way, we explore the music and voices that shaped how he hears and writes songs, from Eric B. & Rakim and Low to Waylon Jennings and Curtis Mayfield.

We talk about how groove became a foundation early on, the influence of hip hop, reggae, and quiet, stripped-down music, and why he’s more interested in the question than the answer. We also discuss holding joy and sorrow at the same time, the role of place in songwriting, and how those ideas show up in songs old and new.

It’s a conversation about feel and reflection, holding two things at once, and the songs that live somewhere in between.

*Bonus: Hiss Golden Messenger’s Song Diving Mixtape with songs from the conversation!